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Hey, deviouSS, what would you recommend for a thickness of aluminum tubing for the bed rack? I sourced some at .125 wall thickness, but I'm concerned that there won't be enough material there to prevent ripping out the threads if I drill and tap some holes to mount it in the bed rack pockets. Same goes for putting in some eye bolts at various locations for tie down points. Think I should go with thicker stock? Weld a nut on the backside (at least for the bed pocket holes)?, or run it as is and just don't torque it down too much?

Thanks. Attached is a quick CAD I did up for the design (look familiar?). Don't trust those dimensions, I picked those out of thin air without actually measuring anything yet.
.125 aluminum is too thin to tap. It will only result in 1-2 threads for 1/4" or 5/16 bolts. Nutserts would be the easiest route.

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post #22 of 35 (permalink) Old 03-14-2016, 11:03 AM
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I bought the bakfilp cs pro cover and rack.The rack has about 2" sway and a little unsettling.I got 1/8" cable and turnbuckles,and made cross braces and it took the sway out. I carry 3 kayaks.
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DieselCJ, I too am looking for this same solution and have researched a lot and have pretty much come up empty. Let us know if have received your truck and tried this out yet.
I have a Canyon SB. Your saying the Silverado SB cut down 6" should work, right?
I would suggest chatting with Morrie at the noted web address. He indicated that he has sold several trac rack systems with the cut down rails. He has a combination of parts of the midsize and the Silverado short bed rails that get cut down. As I recall it was a 6" chop for the twins long bed. My understanding is that it uses the factory hold down in the rear (Silverado the same as Colorado) and then after you cut down the rail you drill it to use the expansion fastener in the front.
So far I have installed a RevolverX2 and not done anything on the racks as yet. Vacillating between custom racks and the Trac Rac. Trac Rac looks a bit bulky on the rails but does provide flexibility and ease of removing when not needed. If I go this route I think I'll add the lock so one can't simply slide the uprights off and steal them. I'm not a contractor so most of the time I don't need racks but want the availability when I do. CJ
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I have been looking as well. Like the Adarac ( ADARAC Truck Bed Rack System | Pickup Truck Racks ), wrote to Customer Support for Canyon Model, reply stated that they were not planning to build for compact trucks?!

My B-in-Law has the Bak Flip Tonneau/Rack combo for his Dodge Ram, as earlier post stated - not that rigid.

I've subscribed to this Thread to see what comes up. Have a Gator FX Tri-Fold Tonneau.
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FYI for anyone still interested, I called TracRac and they just started shipping base rails for the longbed twins now.
Part no. 21783.
Also recommended racks and cantilever are the full size ones.
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I had the Access Lorado cover for about a year before I realized I was on the market for a rack. I couldn't stomach the $900 for a new Revolver on top of the new TracRac so sticking with the Lorado for now. At least until the first time it freezes to my tailgate again this winter and I just cut through it.... Anyway, the Lorado with work with the TracRac with some minor hassle. To roll the cover, just work one end around the rear upright (inner track) on one side then the other. You could always mount both uprights on the outer rail too for less hassle. If having trouble getting the cover material to slide under the rail, I used a small squeegee I had laying around to finish it off. A fresh application of 303 took care of any stickiness after the initial trial.


I just installed this weekend so not much time with it, but I strapped my Old Town Predator 13 into the saddles and then threw the tandem Twin Heron next to it to check for fit. Room for both, probably run with the foam blocks on the tandem.
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I had the Access Lorado cover for about a year before I realized I was on the market for a rack. I couldn't stomach the $900 for a new Revolver on top of the new TracRac so sticking with the Lorado for now. At least until the first time it freezes to my tailgate again this winter and I just cut through it.... Anyway, the Lorado will work with the TracRac with some minor hassle. To roll the cover, just work one end around the rear upright (inner track) on one side then the other. You could always mount both uprights on the outer rail too for less hassle. If having trouble getting the cover material to slide under the rail, I used a small squeegee I had laying around to finish it off. A fresh application of 303 took care of any stickiness after the initial trial.


I just installed this weekend so not much time with it, but I strapped my Old Town Predator 13 into the saddles and then threw the tandem Twin Heron next to it to check for fit. Room for both, probably run with the foam blocks on the tandem.
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I just installed this weekend so not much time with it, but I strapped my Old Town Predator 13 into the saddles and then threw the tandem Twin Heron next to it to check for fit. Room for both, probably run with the foam blocks on the tandem. [/FONT][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Where did you source the kayak saddles?
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I used Malone saddles, from either RackWarehouse or ORSRacksDirect. They both market saddles under the TracRac brand, p/n 44300, already has the proper hardware. Or just find the standard Malone saddles from anywhere and add Malone hw kit MPG1498. I am not sure if any of the other brands sell ready to mount without tracking down your own hw to adapt.


I also padded the bars with a large pool noodle wrapped with a cheap floor matt. Easier on the kayak, and helps hold it in place better when standing on end for loading. It does look better than it sounds if you do it carefully :) Ended up adding the folding j-rack for my 2nd rack. It is quite a reach to load a tandem solo (you would think with a tandem that there would be 2 people to load?????) - I'll probably eventually just end up padding the crossbar on that end and strapping without a rack. I just can't do that with my fishing kayak due to the geometry and all the add-ons.
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I spoke with Morrie at "tonneaufactoryoutlet" and he indicated that the work around for the tracrac on the 2nd gen is to order the base rails for the Silverado short box and cut them down 6" inches. There is also a new bolt on fitting for the back stake pocket so it does not rely on the expansion blocks. I've decided to go with this option and a Revolver X2 when my truck gets delivered in March. CJ
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Did you ever install these?
I'd like to hear about that also. I need a vinyl, roll-up tonneau cover on my 2017 Canyon (truck to be bought soon I hope) but I also would like to have a easily removable bed rack like the TracRac for occasional use. The bed rack would not be needed 90% of the time. I suspect only a limited number of tonneaus will "work" with the attachment clips on the TracRac bases, and would love to hear about that. I don't have a problem with modifying the cross rail on the Silverado TracRac if that's what it takes, but would like to hear more about how to do that. I notice than TracRac's web page still indicates they do not offer a rack for the Canyon/Colorado. I dropped them an email asking about availability today.

The TracRac looks to me to be the best priced with decent looks and adequate strength. The Invis-A-Rac or whatever it is sounds workable, looks so-so, but appears a bit flimsy for carrying 2 kayaks at 65 mph. I know I could instead use a roof rack (DC SB), but those are not meant to be removed and reinstalled, so I'd be stuck with it on the truck all the time. I have that now, and they can be quite noisy....although they may make loading a pair of 12 and 10 ft kayaks easier than on a bed rack......
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A combination of a jackrabbit cover with the explorer rails and the trac-rac cross over bars. The cross over bars remove in a few minutes with 4 thumb knobs.




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A combination of a jackrabbit cover with the explorer rails and the trac-rac cross over bars. The cross over bars remove in a few minutes with 4 thumb knobs.............
Thanks for taking the time to post those pictures, Drew. That is a very tidy looking set up. I don't think I've seen that trac-rac attachment method before. What part are the 'cross over bars'? Is that the part that attaches to the truck's bed rails, near where the stake holes are?
The jackrabbit cover is a model I have not seen before, probably because it's out of my price range! Right now the two covers (roll up, soft vinyl) that are in the running are the Gator SR2 and Access Vanish that look similar but are in the $280-$320 range. My truck will be kept in the garage most of the time and used basically for the 4-6 several week trips we'll take to the Gulf Coast or out west. The truck will be most of a toy-hauler, used for carrying kayaks and a motorcycle plus the other gear required for a several week visit. So neither the cover nor the bed rack (or roof rack) will be used very often, so I'm not going for the quality I'd want otherwise.
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Thanks for taking the time to post those pictures, Drew. That is a very tidy looking set up. I don't think I've seen that trac-rac attachment method before. What part are the 'cross over bars'? Is that the part that attaches to the truck's bed rails, near where the stake holes are?
The jackrabbit cover is a model I have not seen before, probably because it's out of my price range! Right now the two covers (roll up, soft vinyl) that are in the running are the Gator SR2 and Access Vanish that look similar but are in the $280-$320 range. My truck will be kept in the garage most of the time and used basically for the 4-6 several week trips we'll take to the Gulf Coast or out west. The truck will be most of a toy-hauler, used for carrying kayaks and a motorcycle plus the other gear required for a several week visit. So neither the cover nor the bed rack (or roof rack) will be used very often, so I'm not going for the quality I'd want otherwise.
Later: I asked RealTruck regarding the TracRac: "DC SB - Read somewhere you will have a bed rack for this truck soon if not now. Also, I want to have a roll up tonneau cover....will that work with your rack Something like a Truxedo vinyl roll up cover.
Thanks."

They replied:"....At the time we do not have the TracRac TracONE for the 2017 Canyon and Colorado. This truck rack will not work with the tonneau covers as the rails are clamped onto the inside of the bed rail. The TracRac SR Sliding Truck Rack would be the only one from TracRac that will work with tonneau covers. This rack is also not available just yet for the 2017 Canyon/Colorado...."
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