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For a 5 grand hit, 500 dollars on a tune is cheaper. Plus you'll have 4500 towards your own personal drive train warranty that doesn't expire. Or you can go crazy, get PD blower and custom tuning with no warranty.

Going diesel is a completely different story.
How much of a Torque increase do these tunes usually provide...totally ignorant about tunes.

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I only have a little over 500 miles on mine and getting between 19-20 mostly short trip low speed miles.
Nice! I only have had one fillup so far and it worked out to 20.9 mpg. I am just under 500 miles right now, and this second tank I expect to do a little better. I run an average speed per tank of around 30-35 mph.

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This motor has enough torque and horsepower. Most of us arent chasing more hp at 6000rpm. Most people are dissatisfied with shift points.

The programming prefers maximum mpg at the cost of some power sagging and throttle position slush. People that have a heavier foot won't realize it because you stomp and go.

When I drive uphill and the engine wants to save gas by holding 800 rpm it boggles and shudders. By the time I push down far enough, it upshifts 2-3 gears. Throwing the truck forward with the sudden surge in torque/hp
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This motor has enough torque and horsepower. Most of us arent chasing more hp at 6000rpm. Most people are dissatisfied with shift points.

The programming prefers maximum mpg at the cost of some power sagging and throttle position slush. People that have a heavier foot won't realize it because you stomp and go.

When I drive uphill and the engine wants to save gas by holding 800 rpm it boggles and shudders. By the time I push down far enough, it upshifts 2-3 gears. Throwing the truck forward with the sudden surge in torque/hp


exactly! throw in 160 degree hairpins with washboards and it almost just stops right in the middle of the corner like you hit the brake. I've trained myself to use manual select shift but it would be nice if the truck just shifted properly.


The 2017 has my eye but only because of the ZR2 with increased clearance and lockers. A lift kit on mine could rectify the clearance issue but I can't get lockers yet. By the time I kit mine out with after market stuff it's getting dangerously close to trade in time.

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exactly! throw in 160 degree hairpins with washboards and it almost just stops right in the middle of the corner like you hit the brake. I've trained myself to use manual select shift but it would be nice if the truck just shifted properly.


The 2017 has my eye but only because of the ZR2 with increased clearance and lockers. A lift kit on mine could rectify the clearance issue but I can't get lockers yet. By the time I kit mine out with after market stuff it's getting dangerously close to trade in time.
Tow mode helps. And I'm stupid for hating to have to click on this when I'm weaving through hairpins and having to click out when I'm at a straightaway.
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I only have a little over 500 miles on mine and getting between 19-20 mostly short trip low speed miles.
I've got about 1650 on mine and according to the DIC I've been getting 21.5 (mainly in town, one 400 mile road trip) and according to my calculations, my average is about 19.5. I noticed that in the cold weather (<32F) my DIC could barely get me 19.0 now that it is warmer (70F+) my DIC is showing 20.5. So I'm thinking cold weather has an adverse affect. Now in Texas it normally doesn't stay below freezing for more than 36 hours, so I'm not that worried.

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I only have a little over 500 miles on mine and getting between 19-20 mostly short trip low speed miles.
I've got about 1650 on mine and according to the DIC I've been getting 21.5 (mainly in town, one 400 mile road trip) and according to my calculations, my average is about 19.5. I noticed that in the cold weather (&lt;32F) my DIC could barely get me 19.0 now that it is warmer (70F+) my DIC is showing 20.5. So I'm thinking cold weather has an adverse affect. Now in Texas it normally doesn't stay below freezing for more than 36 hours, so I'm not that worried.
Well...400 miles is almost 25% of your total mileage...So that would bring it up quite a bit. If I get between 19-20 on my daily driving which will average 30-35 mph...I will take it...That is pretty good for a big heavy truck.
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I always wanted the new diesel just for the hell of it but didn't get it after reading all of the common issues with modern day diesels. For some reason I can't get the thought out of my head for wanting the diesel. Truthfully I have absolutely no need for a diesel.

That being said, I put down $6k when I bought my 16 so trading in I would probably break even if not have a tiny bit of equity.

The ONE big problem is the damn blue interior lighting! I couldn't do it for that reason alone lol.

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How much of a Torque increase do these tunes usually provide...totally ignorant about tunes.
Nothing remotely close to what a diesel will give you! LOL! Normally between 10-20 ft lbs of torque depending upon the engine, fuel octane and aggressiveness of the tune.

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I always wanted the new diesel just for the hell of it but didn't get it after reading all of the common issues with modern day diesels. For some reason I can't get the thought out of my head for wanting the diesel. Truthfully I have absolutely no need for a diesel.

That being said, I put down $6k when I bought my 16 so trading in I would probably break even if not have a tiny bit of equity.

The ONE big problem is the damn blue interior lighting! I couldn't do it for that reason alone lol.
Blue interior lighting? Colorado?
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Blue interior lighting? Colorado?
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Will there be/is there anyway to disable the AFM?

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The 2017 has my eye but only because of the ZR2 with increased clearance and lockers
Now you're talkin'......

I don't think the new engine & tranny would be worth a change....IMO anyway.

But if you've wanted to change up for a diesel..... And/OR if you're into offroading, the ZR2 has enough goodies to make it worth it. Front locker? Toyota can't even say that.

Besides...from what I'm seeing, the aftermarket world hasn't come out with any lockers or even new gearsets yet. That's gotta be depressing for all you guys that have put bigger tires on and can't change the gears. It'll probably take a couple years for that to catch up once they see there's a demand for it.

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Will there be/is there anyway to disable the AFM?
There will probably be, once tuners get the new platform figured out. But honestly, it's working pretty seamlessly ATM, for me to look into that.
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Will there be/is there anyway to disable the AFM?
Honestly you will not know you have it...unless you pul up the DIC screen that will show you when it switched, which is very seldom. It pretty much only goes to v4 when you are breaking to come to a stop or coasting.
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I did exactly that. Traded my 16 WT for a 17 LT. All it took was one test drive. New 8 speed makes the truck. Shift points are spot on. If you're thinking about it I wouldn't hesitate. These things depreciate pretty quick.
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Nothing remotely close to what a diesel will give you! LOL! Normally between 10-20 ft lbs of torque depending upon the engine, fuel octane and aggressiveness of the tune.
Yeah for sure...that Torque comes in handing when you are pulling something. If I had a diesel, I think I would have to have a tune to increase the HP. Coming from a Turbo car I love the low end grunt...but without adequate HP it takes forever to get up to speed. That would drive me crazy seeing that speedo taking that long just to reach 60 MPH.

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Not sure this applies as I went from a 2016 4cyl, 6speed auto to a 17, v6, 8 speed, but it makes a world of difference, driveability wise.
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When I bought my 2016 V6 I ordered it from the factory. I ordered mine so late I could have chosen between a 16 or a 17 with only a couple of weeks difference in delivery.
The reason I went with the 16 is that once my warranty expires I will be doing all maintenance and repairs on my truck and I was truly worried about having to replace the lifters prematurely because of the AFM. (I know it's better than it used to be)
As for the transmission problems. Yes I was on board the hate train the first time my truck had no clue what gear it should be in when I had to go up a hill or feeling like I had to hit 5000 rpm to pass another car. but once my truck hit about 3000 kms it all kind of went away.
Perhaps I have gotten used to how the throttle responds to my foot plus with out even thinking about it my foot knows where the sweet spot is on the pedal to get the perfect down shifts.
All in all I love this truck so much I would leave my wife for it.


At the end of the day YOU'RE driving it and it's YOUR money. I hope what ever decision you make works out for you.
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IMHO a worthy upgrade is a diesel Canyon or Colorado.

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