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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 12-30-2016, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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Upsized tires to 265/70/17

I'm not totally unhappy with the purchase but it wasn't quite what I was hoping for.

I went from the OE P255/65/17 Wrangler Adventurer to the Cooper Discoverer ATP P265/70/17. I guess I've seen too many pictures of our trucks using more aggressive all terrain or mud tires (Duratrac, KO2 etc.). I realize the ATP is a mild A/T tire so it shouldn't look super aggressive but I also assumed the truck would look taller than it does. This may also be a function of the overall length of the truck and the fact I used a P series tire instead of the C or E load rating which are slightly taller and have deeper tread. In person it definitely looks more rugged than it did with the OE tires. A crew cab short bed would look even more burly.

I am pleased with the purchase and would do it again but I thought I would post up a few photos for those still sitting on the fence wondering which size and style of tire to buy. With the RC 2" leveling kit up front and the new tires I measured 10.35" of clearance under the front air dam and 9.5" under the rear differential and shock mounts. I have not modified the air dam. I have absolutely no rubbing at full lock moving forward or reverse. The tire specs say height is 31.42" and 14/32nd tread. The LT versions measure 31.65" and 16.5/32nds tread depth. For those who do more rough off-roading and don't worry about a fuel economy hit the LT versions would be the way to go. Same applies to the Cooper Discoverer A/T3 which is a very similar tire.
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For comparison these are the Falken AT3w 265/70/r17s and my wheels are 17x8.5 00 offset. Also my truck is a EC LB with RC 2" and RC 1.25" bodylift so it is a little shorter and taller.
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I'm surprised how much rake you still have in the front with the RC 2" level kit added on. I guess the diesels really do have more from the springs.

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For comparison these are the Falken AT3w 265/70/r17s and my wheels are 17x8.5 00 offset. Also my truck is a EC LB with RC 2" and RC 1.25" bodylift so it is a little shorter and taller.
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Definitely more aggro. Looks nice man. :)

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I'm surprised how much rake you still have in the front with the RC 2" level kit added on. I guess the diesels really do have more from the springs.
It's weird because sometimes it looks more level. I'm really glad I didn't go with the lower leveling kit. :) I just wish I could have the look of the short bed but I need the long bed.

Photo is from last week with the OE tires.
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Definitely more aggro. Looks nice man. :)
Thank you.
Your truck looks good too!
The 1.25 bodylift may be worth looking into...easy to install with hand tools.
Here is a before and after of mine it kinda makes the truck look shorter.

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Added the RC 1.25" bodylift
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Thank you.
Your truck looks good too!
The 1.25 bodylift may be worth looking into...easy to install with hand tools.
Here is a before and after of mine it kinda makes the truck look shorter.

RC 2" leveling kit
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Added the RC 1.25" bodylift
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That definitely look better. Unfortunately my house is full of short people who already have trouble getting in and out as well as putting our mountain bikes over the tailgate. At 6'3" it doesn't bother me but those sub-5.5" people complain. Haha

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That definitely look better. Unfortunately my house is full of short people who already have trouble getting in and out as well as putting our mountain bikes over the tailgate. At 6'3" it doesn't bother me but those sub-5.5" people complain. Haha
I hear you, just figured I would throw it out as a suggestion.
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After not getting the Coopers to ride the way I wanted, America's Tire was happy to swap them out to the Goodyear Duratrac in the same size. I'm a happy customer.

They look great too!




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In my humble opinion the Duratrac's look better. You have an awesome looking truck! When I'm due for tires I'll be going for these!!
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In my humble opinion the Duratrac's look better. You have an awesome looking truck! When I'm due for tires I'll be going for these!!
Thanks! I agree the Duratrac really enhanced the look. Even with the odometer conversion math I'm seeing about 1mpg or more drop in fuel economy but that was expected. Once I get a 1,000miles on them I'll feel confident in the final loss number and post it up. Right now with all of the crazy storms it is difficult to determine the loss.

The MUCH better looks, increased ride height and traction are worth the loss for me.

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look much better!!!
Im gonna go to a 255/70/17 to retain the stock width but add height. Id love to go with Duratrac's but im going with Falkin AT3W mainly cuz of the cost and they do just as good
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I have the twin to your truck, I like the tires, looks good. Are they noisy on the road? I have the Retrax cover on my truck and I am going with just the 1.25" leveling. My wife struggles enough as it is getting in so I won't go any higher. Looks good.

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Have to say...but I am biased since I have them too...The Duratrac is a really good looking tire. The raised edges on the side wall makes them look really aggressive like a mudder but they still ride pretty nice an not overly loud. They are a pain in the butt to put tire dressing on though. I got a Tru Shine tire kit that I used over the weekend. Since they were new tire I only had to use the cleaner twice on each tire and then three coats each of the tire shine. They look really good. I will let folks know how well it holds up. Supposed the last a LOOONG time and not wash off even with a pressure washer. It is supposed to be permanent and only very occasionally have to give it a touchup coat. Keeps tire looking black and new.

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Just a little update....

So far I'm not impressed with the Duratrac in the rain. At a dead stop they spin a lot easier than the OEM Wrangler Adventurer. I've observed this on clean roads after the road grime has been well washed by 20" inches of rain this season.

I think I'm seeing about a 1mpg+- loss after accounting for the odometer error (using miles x 1.048 in my calculation).

I've obviously gained some ride height. I measured the center bottom of the air dam and I have approx. 11 1/8 clearance. Pre leveling kit and OEM 255/65/17 tires I had 8.25".

These tires are much louder at highway speed than the stock tires.

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Just a little update....

So far I'm not impressed with the Duratrac in the rain. At a dead stop they spin a lot easier than the OEM Wrangler Adventurer. I've observed this on clean roads after the road grime has been well washed by 20" inches of rain this season.

These tires are much louder at highway speed than the stock tires.
Were the Coopers you tried quieter at highway speeds? Also, what did yo not like about the ride with the Coopers?
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Were the Coopers you tried quieter at highway speeds? Also, what did yo not like about the ride with the Coopers?
The Cooper were quieter but about half way between the OEM tires and the Duratrac.

I had an issue with balancing the Coopers. Overall they seem like a good compromise between the Duratrac/KO2 and the OEM Wranglers.

I'm just a little disappointed because the main reason I upgraded the tires was for better winter performance but now I feel safer letting my girl drive the Volt with worn (5/32nds) Continental PureContacts than the truck. The Volt grips better in the rain. If it snows the truck will obviously be better though.

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The Cooper were quieter but about half way between the OEM tires and the Duratrac.

I had an issue with balancing the Coopers. Overall they seem like a good compromise between the Duratrac/KO2 and the OEM Wranglers.

I'm just a little disappointed because the main reason I upgraded the tires was for better winter performance but now I feel safer letting my girl drive the Volt with worn (5/32nds) Continental PureContacts than the truck. The Volt grips better in the rain. If it snows the truck will obviously be better though.
Thanks for that feedback. Did the tire dealer or anyone say that Coopers have balancing problems in general? Did they vibrate at highway speeds or something? I was thinking of getting them, bu tnot if there is a general balance problem. Most reviews seemed positive.
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Thanks for that feedback. Did the tire dealer or anyone say that Coopers have balancing problems in general? Did they vibrate at highway speeds or something? I was thinking of getting them, bu tnot if there is a general balance problem. Most reviews seemed positive.
It seems to be hit and miss. The dealer didn't say the Coopers are particularly prone to balance issues. They did state that the least prone to balance issues are Michelin tires. Pretty much everything else is hit or miss. I waded through tons of other forum posts on the Duratrac, KO2 and ATP and results were all over the board. Lots of people had balance issues with all 3 and lots of people didn't. *shrug*

I would suggest choosing the tire you think best fits your needs and buy/install them at a place you trust with good customer service like America's Tire/Discount Tire and you don't have much to worry about.

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Just a little update....

So far I'm not impressed with the Duratrac in the rain. At a dead stop they spin a lot easier than the OEM Wrangler Adventurer. I've observed this on clean roads after the road grime has been well washed by 20" inches of rain this season.

I think I'm seeing about a 1mpg+- loss after accounting for the odometer error (using miles x 1.048 in my calculation).

I've obviously gained some ride height. I measured the center bottom of the air dam and I have approx. 11 1/8 clearance. Pre leveling kit and OEM 255/65/17 tires I had 8.25".

These tires are much louder at highway speed than the stock tires.

Yeah...that is a trade off with an aggressive tread pattern. Allot of space in between the treads. Really good for snow....not so much for rain. Mine are the 65s instead of 70s and I have not noticed the spinning, but I tend to shift mine in 4WD Auto in the rain to prevent that too. Yes, they are louder than stock for sure and a little rougher ride...but that was expected with an AT tire and especially with the Duratracs as they are a little more aggressive than most. The are just a whisper from being M/T tires.
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