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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 02-06-2016, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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Colorado / Canyon factory sport bar light switch.

In case anyone is interested in the factory light switch off the Trail Boss package, I have attached a picture of it. It incorporates the fog and the sport bar light nicely into switch. I imagine you could use this switch to hook up any additional lights ie a front light bar. Pretty cool how they split it into two. The switch makes everything look clean.

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Nice....thanks
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Thank you! I've been looking for these to maybe figure out how to hook up a light bar into versus drilling for new switches.

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Did you actually install one?

I think the question a lot of us have is whether or not it needs bcm programming and whether or not the dealer would do it for us. At least for us 2015 guys.

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You can't wire lights or even just a relay to that switch. It is a digital (voltage not necessarily 12v) input for the BCM. Each output has a resistor to drop the voltage to different levels.
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I've been researching the sports bar on this website, but haven't found a clear answer.

The Chevrolet website indicates the sports bar is only compatible with 2016 and newer Colorado models.

What's the difference between the 2015 and 2016, that makes this so?
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I kinda looked in it. You can buy the sport bar lights. They come with the lights, harness, and switch, depending on if you have factory fogs or not. There is no mention of modules needed. The new switch has 8 pins on the back. I'd be curious to see if they populated existing pins or added. I am thinking they are using existing pins. If that's the case you should be able to use the new pins to send power to any led lights. Seeing the harness that comes with the lights would tell the story. It's a shame it's 995.00 just to get a look. I can't see to find just the harness with the part # 23415425

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I kinda looked in it. You can buy the sport bar lights. They come with the lights, harness, and switch, depending on if you have factory fogs or not. There is no mention of modules needed. The new switch has 8 pins on the back. I'd be curious to see if they populated existing pins or added. I am thinking they are using existing pins. If that's the case you should be able to use the new pins to send power to any led lights. Seeing the harness that comes with the lights would tell the story. It's a shame it's 995.00 just to get a look. I can't see to find just the harness with the part # 23415425

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I'll try to clarify why you can't simply use a "switch" that is designed as a computer module input device. If the switch contains a resistor circuit, it will send a different voltage value to the module for each button or twist to indicate what light is requested by the operator. This means that voltages out of the switch will be different for each function. Some functions will use the same wire with a different voltage indicating the different functions to the module. This is a digital output, not a 12v power output that could be used to directly power a LED cluster or even a 12v relay coil. This is likely why the sports bar lights are for the 2016 vehicles only. It is possible that the BCM already has the necessary hardware and wiring to allow this dual switch to function after proper configuration. The "module" you are looking for is the BCM which is already in the truck.

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I guess I got a couple of threads confused. At one point I thought someone in this thread said you would need to buy the specific module for this to work. What I was getting at was the parts package which has everything you need for 995.00 did not have a module listed so simply buying the switch and harness would work if you were powering different LED than the sport bar lights. (2016, I cant speculate on 2015 since Chevy doesn't list it). I was trying to clarify the ability to use the switch for an aftermarket light.

And I guess I should have been more specific that I wasn't saying the pin outs provide 12v, but provide the signal to the module to power the lights, and thats why the harness is so important. I understand the can-bus system to a degree, I just don't convey it well...
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I guess I got a couple of threads confused. At one point I thought someone in this thread said you would need to buy the specific module for this to work. What I was getting at was the parts package which has everything you need for 995.00 did not have a module listed so simply buying the switch and harness would work if you were powering different LED than the sport bar lights. (2016, I cant speculate on 2015 since Chevy doesn't list it). I was trying to clarify the ability to use the switch for an aftermarket light.

And I guess I should have been more specific that I wasn't saying the pin outs provide 12v, but provide the signal to the module to power the lights, and thats why the harness is so important. I understand the can-bus system to a degree, I just don't convey it well...
One of the items with the kit is a code that the dealer will use online with their programming operation to activate that option. With anything less than the full factory lighting kit, you will not have the code to activate that feature and the switch will not function as expected.

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Now that's not playing fair!

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I like the way they split the switch. Although I hate the location of the switch, I hit my knee on it getting out of truck once in a while.
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I have the sports bar on my Trail Boss. It appears that the electronics clip into the accessory rear access jack near the left rear tail light that others use for accessory truck bed lights.
I suppose is is to allow for the brake light to work with the new bar.

I have done an online search to see what is done to install the bar into the electrical system, but have been unable to find any PDF file.

From my truck, it appears they use the auxiliary trunk bed light input near the rear tail light to gain power to the bar. However, two wire are not integrated to allow it to work as a brake light. The bar does block the existing brake light, so the new one is used.

Also, the truck bed lights work, but are partially blocked by the bar.

GM is using the new auxiliary access portal on the 2015 and 2016 to power the new brake light. It could be easily wired into existing circuitry. The coding is to prevent a computer fault with the new LEDs.

I would love it if someone could post the official install PDF for the bar.
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There is a 25 page PDF for installing the lights, relay and switch. My local parts guy emailed me the directions. I can email them to people if you want. teamhelotes at satx.rr.com
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Thanks, I e-mailed you a request for the PDF file. It might be nice if it could be posted as a file in this forum. I'm not certain if that violates any copy write or confidential laws. I am most curious as to the hot wire pick up and the third brake light wiring.
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Thanks for the file. Very interesting.
Anyone interested in doing this needs to read the file. It requires a lot of wiring and a flash update the BCM. Page 22 notes that the BCM calibration may not be stored in the BCM. It requires a calibration download. This requires a Serial Number and Authorization code to authorize the download.

Seems to me it is a dealer option. I don't understand how a private installation would get the flash update to the Body Control Module, (BCM).

As an additional request, does anyone have the PDF installation for the actual sports bar?I am curious how they route the third brake light.

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I'm not crazy about the sport bar or the over the cab position of the off road lights. But I do like the clean look of the combo light switch. So after reading the PDF, thanks T.H., and the up fitter electrical manual, it appears to use the combo switch, you will need to run two extra wires to the BCM that will energize a relay and the led indicator in the switch once the lights come on. So I would think that the light bar i'm planning to install in my grill could be powered by this set up just like the OEM off-road lights. Soon as I can start my install, i'll post some pics. Appreciate anyone with experience wiring in the combo switch w/ Fog and Off-Road lights to chime in if I'm missing something. Thanks!
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I'm not crazy about the sport bar or the over the cab position of the off road lights. But I do like the clean look of the combo light switch. So after reading the PDF, thanks T.H., and the up fitter electrical manual, it appears to use the combo switch, you will need to run two extra wires to the BCM that will energize a relay and the led indicator in the switch once the lights come on. So I would think that the light bar i'm planning to install in my grill could be powered by this set up just like the OEM off-road lights. Soon as I can start my install, i'll post some pics. Appreciate anyone with experience wiring in the combo switch w/ Fog and Off-Road lights to chime in if I'm missing something. Thanks!
This is exactly what I want to do. Have a factory switch for lights, but have them operate a front grill 30" bar. I don't plan on spending 995.00 to get the light bar kit just to get a switch, harness and two OEM sport bar lights I am not going to use.

I'll be curious to see if it can work this way

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If you have a 2015, you cannot use the factory switch. The BCM will NOT accept the program. I have the factory parts, and we had to hard wire the lights.

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I had The Sport bar installed on my 2015 Colorado z71(trail boss package). They had wire a seperate switch as the replacement from Chevy didnt work. The guy said it was the bcm. For some reason i read somewhere else. That the 2015 canyons are able to accept the switch.
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