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I really EXPECT the GM "members" of this forum to make an intelligent response. Either it CAN be done on the DIC, or it can't, AND the reason why. If enough voices on this forum hammer away, we will get a response.

Given it's the weekend, perhaps we could get a response from GM next week? Hey, I'd even be willing to PAY a little for the upgrade.

Perhaps some of the tuner vendors might be able to hack the DIC??
I don't think its that easy. Apparently the DIC and BCM were not designed to do it, so I would think it can't simply be "added".
As far as tuners, I'm not positive but I think they can only change ECM values. So that and the fact that the BCM is the device that controls lights/indicators I would think no. Plus you can't change a value that isn't there. As an example, you could change how fast the left turn signal flashes but you cant add a turn signal with software alone. You could however, as an example, make the left turn signal indicator come on when in 4x4.
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IMO gm did not do a whole lot of thinking thru on the design of these trucks nor much in the way of real world test driving before production

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Did the first generation Colorados and Canyons have a 4x4 indicator?
And what about all the other GM products? Silverado/Sierra, equinox, Suburban,Yukon,Terrain, etc?
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The real issue is the 4x4 change knob is VERY well hidden from the driver's view by the steering wheel. If I am driving, and wish to check what mode I am in, I must remove my gaze from the road, and crane my head, SIGNIFICANTLY, to see the change knob. Just really DUMB positioning. All my other GM 4x4's had the change knob/buttons clearly in my view with a short glance...

Perhaps that enough of a safety concern to move GM along?
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The real issue is the 4x4 change knob is VERY well hidden from the driver's view by the steering wheel. If I am driving, and wish to check what mode I am in, I must remove my gaze from the road, and crane my head, SIGNIFICANTLY, to see the change knob. Just really DUMB positioning. All my other GM 4x4's had the change knob clearly in my view with a short glance...

Perhaps that enough of a safety concern to move GM along?
Very good point. It only takes a couple seconds and before you know it...someone gets hurt.
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Ive done it, too. Cant understand why they didnt put an indicator light on the dash. My 1990 Jeep Wrangler had one. SMH.....

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Did the first generation Colorados and Canyons have a 4x4 indicator?
And what about all the other GM products? Silverado/Sierra, equinox, Suburban,Yukon,Terrain, etc?
Yes, with the first generation 4x4 buttons being on the top of the center stack of the dash. You could always see them. Never a problem.
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Yes, with the first generation 4x4 buttons being on the top of the center stack of the dash. You could always see them. Never a problem.
Damn! So why did they screw this one up?
Someone needs to get fired!
Should have left well enough alone. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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It's def my priority design gripe. I have auto in mine and I left it on for a while I presume, I noticed I was getting like 25 mpg hwy and figured it was in regen. On the return 160 miles, I noticed AUTO was engaged.....turned it off and went to 29.5.

My 14' Silverado was at least in a better spot, I've hit this one with a knee I guess twice.

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Can we draft an online petition that we can all electronically sign and send it to the appropriate people? It would need to be crafted well and just a "bitch letter". I would think this should be possible. The question then is...whom do we send it to???
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Can we draft an online petition that we can all electronically sign and send it to the appropriate people? It would need to be crafted well and just a "bitch letter". I would think this should be possible. The question then is...whom do we send it to???
You need to send your letters to more than one source in order to be effective.

I do not have a 4WD, but I know what has worked for me in the past with another issue. First, find out email and mailing address of BOTH the Wentzville GM plant manager AND assistant plant manager. I would also search out a list of Chevrolet/GM Divisions corporate president, heads of engineering sections and consumer safety. You could also throw in some to Customer Service, but they are a largely PR feel good department that, to me, is not listened to or taken seriously. A dog and pony show.

It also might not hurt to send letters to one or more consumer safety watch dog institutions.
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Looks like this should do the trick...

https://www.ipetitions.com/

Now we need to draft the text, get signatures, and send it on...

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I just posted our concern to GM's corporate site with a link to this thread, basic description of concern, and asked who to contact. Most likely will get a Dear John letter back, but you never know since I used the word "Safety".

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This is even a complaint on the full size trucks. The only indication is on the knob. When I had my 2014 sierra, part of my "get in and go" routine was checking the knob to make sure I was in 2hi. Just in case.

My dad's 2014 Ram has a light on the DIC that shows if you have 4x4 engaged.

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Wrangler has an indicator for 4WD and 4WD Lo on instrument panel and then there is that rather noticeable shift lever between the front seats.

Might be interesting to see what Fiat does for new design since they seem to be a strong proponent of simple rotational knobs for gear shifting.

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Even a RWD truck guy like me finds this issue annoying. Such a simple fix could make everyone happy. As for contacting GM, I think the people at the factory care somewhat about the customers, the GM head office, not so much. Here is the email for Darin Copeland, the communications manager at Wentzville. Maybe a polite letter or two might help.

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is there an unused light in there? Now that I think about it when you put it in 4 low 2 lights come on right? traction control and something else?
The two unused that come to mind is a swirly line on the tach side, right in the middle at the bottom (no idea what this one is), and what appears to be a lane assist light at the speedo side toward the upper right side.

Never used 4lo but in 4hi one press of the traction control button gives you the first light, hold the button down for a bit gives you the second. I'd even be good with having all traction systems off and both lights on in 4hi.

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Having the 4x4 reset back to 2 high whenever you restart the engine would be a partial cure. The only drawback would be (while driving) when road conditions change, you might forget you're in 4x4 until you make a turn and feel the resistance.
Maybe this partial cure could be programmed into the software.

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Well I thought all of you were crazy lol..(I was sure the 17's at least had a light)....I checked mine tonight and wow...no indicator except for the button and that tiny itty bitty light on it...(that is an engineering blunder for sure.)


Now the DIC told me it was engaging into 4wd...there is no way that can't be displayed somewhere on the dash...My ram said it plainly with a green 4wd light...


Oh and none of you are crazy... :)
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Having the 4x4 reset back to 2 high whenever you restart the engine would be a partial cure. The only drawback would be (while driving) when road conditions change, you might forget you're in 4x4 until you make a turn and feel the resistance.
Maybe this partial cure could be programmed into the software.
Please, NO.
For those that use the 4x4 in the truck to go in areas where 2wd is not enough (not just inclement weather on pavement), this will result in getting stuck because stop and start and stop and start will eventually wind up with trying to start while digging in (or sliding back) while in 2wd.
The simple solution would be to move it back where it was before the stylists decided trucks needed console-mounted shifters and occasionally needed a bench seat in front.
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