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These hikes CAN be overturned. They don't take effect until next fall. There is still time for people to get together and overturn this. I think I read that it takes 1 million signatures to get the opportunity to vote this down in November.
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This is my stream of consciousness California story, with some bonus inflammatory political views thrown in at the end for your pleasure. Ya know, when a thread has "fucking cocksucker" in it's title, it is gonna be a full steam ahead bare it all discussion

Went to college in Ohio, graduated, worked some crappy jobs (it was 1985 then, economy sucked) got with my current employer in 1988 and took the opening in Southern CA as I am a motorcycle nut and had a hankering to experience CA.

Got to CA, lived with roommates, saved money, threw lots of keg parties, bought a boat with a buddy and went to the river every weekend we could. Rode our street bikes too fast, sometimes going past the cops at 150 plus, did wheelies past the cops on my XL600 dual sport and sometimes lane split on one wheel on the 405 freeway. Was a complete nut with no fear and a knack for getting away it seems. Did sell the 600 as that thing was going to land me bloody and unconscious in jail. It was a street legal dirt bike and begged to be ridden in a socially unacceptable fashion. I am weak that way.

Calmed down a little, met my wife and had 2 kids, bought a house in Long Beach in '95, sold it for 3x what I paid for it in '04 and moved to Colorado with a fat tax free wad of cash. You know what? For better or worse, there are a lot of former Californians here in Colorado who did the same thing, and they feel about CA like you and I do, and, big bonus, every one I have met here speaks English.

CA was extremely good to me, but like a vacuous and pretty party girl, she is to be had fun with and then tossed aside. Do not marry her as she can't ever be fixed. Sorry about your state brother. Seems I sucked all the life out of it and then skipped town. A few random and amusing pics, from back in those days

All kidding and youthful reveries aside, CA has major problems -massive numbers of the wrong people, who have no right to live there, have invaded our country and live in CA, and the government panders to them. The Democratic led CA government needs money to support all the illegals and moochers that form it's voter base, so they are taxing your fuel and everything else they can lay their hands on. God damn Feinstein and Boxer. I can't believe those bitches are still alive. What are they, 115 years old now? Abandon ship. That is my advice. I just hope that California does not take the rest of the country with it.

The media was shocked that Trump won. I was not surprised at all. The rest of America is tired of this shit. The voters are so tired of the direction we are headed, that they looked past the fact that he is a plutocrat with many serious faults, and elected Trump in a desperate Hail Mary to save the soul of our country as we know it. There is a large part of non coastal America that does not want to become California. Watching the liberals cry about Trump is good sport. Holy shit they are sore losers...
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You are all invited to come to Lafayette. We are the happiest city in America.
Our summers get a little warm and humid, but to compensate we have drive thru Daquiri's, housing thats still reasonable and Diesel that's 2.19 a gal.
Oh, and you can keep your guns. We don't need them, we have plenty!

1 more thing, bring some of that great Napa wine, I'm down to my last 15 bottles and Venge isn't scheduled too arrive or another month or so.
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Y'all have at least 1 good representative down there in Socal.

Check out Melissa Melendez's FB page. She's wicked awesome telling off these Liberals.

She even posted like 6 Dem. Senator's contact info on her FB page the other day because of this so it was easy to call them and let them know your thoughts. I spent about 15min yesterday morning calling each one and leaving them awesome voicemails to make sure they have a good Monday
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In the end the reality is...Brown (idiot comunist) REALLY wants his high speed (semi fast) train and this gives him a bunch of extra money so that he doesn't have to use general fund money for "road repair" (semi fast train).

Also, if/when trump cuts the fed funding to CA for insisting on being a sanctuary state for illegal alien criminals (refusing to hold criminal aliens when ICE requests so they can be picked up), the extra tax money will allow Brown to carry on with the free handouts to the masses, including illegal aliens.

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In the end the reality is...Brown (idiot comunist) REALLY wants his high speed (semi fast) train and this gives him a bunch of extra money so that he doesn't have to use general fund money for "road repair" (semi fast train).

Also, if/when trump cuts the fed funding to CA for insisting on being a sanctuary state for illegal alien criminals (refusing to hold criminal aliens when ICE requests so they can be picked up), the extra tax money will allow Brown to carry on with the free handouts to the masses, including illegal aliens.

The democrat party makes me sick.
Don't for get all the money Feinstein is getting from that stupid ass train.

No one seemed to publicize at the time that her husband was the CEO of a major corporate realestate company that was brokering all the land deals for the train. Talk about a conflict of interest in the tens of millions on her part.


Who the F wants to take a train trip that takes longer and cost more than a plane trip? I could see if the train had car carriers so at least you wouldn't have to rent a car when you got to your destination but nope, no car carriers so this is literally a solution that had no problem and just served to make the Rich Liberal Politicians richer. That train is totally going to turn out like the Simpsons Monorail.
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Don't for get all the money Feinstein is getting from that stupid ass train.

No one seemed to publicize at the time that her husband was the CEO of a major corporate realestate company that was brokering all the land deals for the train. Talk about a conflict of interest in the tens of millions on her part.


Who the F wants to take a train trip that takes longer and cost more than a plane trip? I could see if the train had car carriers so at least you wouldn't have to rent a car when you got to your destination but nope, no car carriers so this is literally a solution that had no problem and just served to make the Rich Liberal Politicians richer. That train is totally going to turn out like the Simpsons Monorail.
You have it wrong...
When the train looses money year after year, they will raise your taxes again to cover the loss and again to pay for the pensions that the .gov workers that run it will be taking.
Then the EBT train passes will come so that the illegals and the freeloading scum can ride for free and not be disenfranchised.

You are a peasant, your democrat overlords will pass laws and spend your money on what they deem important and when they need more of your money they will simply take it.
You are expected to comply like a good serf.

...welcome to the People's Republic of Kalifornia...
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Fuel taxes are high in California, but diesel has been getting a break on state taxes for a long time. The greater ncrease for diesel makes the rates more equitable. The new law will also tax electric cars, which currently do not pay road taxes. If there is an inequity, it seems to me it would be for diesel farm equipment which is not operated on the roads to any significant degree. I don't know if there is a way around that, but there ought to be.
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Y'all have at least 1 good representative down there in Socal.

Check out Melissa Melendez's FB page. She's wicked awesome telling off these Liberals.

She even posted like 6 Dem. Senator's contact info on her FB page the other day because of this so it was easy to call them and let them know your thoughts. I spent about 15min yesterday morning calling each one and leaving them awesome voicemails to make sure they have a good Monday
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Not sure but he was a big time anti gun CA Democrat and got busted running illegal guns (he is the definition of hypocrite)...he thought only the CA overlords are above the laws they write I guess...
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California is it's OWN FAULT. Jerry Brown was TERRIBLE when he was voted in the FIRST time. Jerry Brown is even WORSE now and it BLOWS MY MIND that the majority of the liberal ASSHOLES don't EVER LEARN THEIR LESSON!

I mean, seriously, Californians (The liberal ones) are fucking STUPID!!!

You couldn't PAY ME to live their. Although beautiful, CA has the WORSE Taxes, GUN LAWS, police, HYPOCRITICAL politicians.... you NAME it. FUCK CA.

I don't feel sorry for ANYONE who chooses to live there. Forced to live there is another story....
Unfortunately a LOT of us are in that boat. I'm pushing 50, and I've got one kid in her final year at Cal State Full., my middle is a senior in H.S., and my youngest is a sophomore, and then of course mine and my wife's jobs.
I was talking to a guy in Austin(TX.) last night, and he told me Californians are in max exodus there, San Antonio and Houston.
Never mind all the companies that Jerry and his comrades are chasing away. Toyota and its thousands of employees are leaving Torrance for Texas, and you know what California's response was? 'Don't let the door hit you in the ass'
As Jerry et al keeps spending(and stealing) more and more money, and keeps chasing away [long-time California] business(es), guess who keeps getting squeezed [more and more] to pick up the slack?
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If there is an inequity, it seems to me it would be for diesel farm equipment which is not operated on the roads to any significant degree. I don't know if there is a way around that, but there ought to be.
In most states there is off-road diesel for agricultural use that does not include road tax. It is dyed red so it looks different from road diesel and you cannot hide it if you use it.

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I calculated my annual expense. It's gonna be expensive. I can probably absorb it. I drive 24k miles a year and figure I'm in for about $400 more annually with the vehicle license fees increase. Now I have 5 vehicles that I'm still responsible for (1 toy car, 1 wife, 2 kids). I will adjust accordingly as I plot my escape from this wasteland.

That being said. . . and I lean more to the conservative side of the line. The interesting thing about this whole charade is the people that the Democrats claim to be the champion for. . . just got screwed by the very politicians they continue to elect. I hope they're paying attention. This TAX and FEE will hit them one hell of a lot harder than it will hurt me and the upper 50% of the income earners in this state.

So the Dems got them $15/hour minimum wage hike. . . now they're going to take that money away in Taxes, Fees, and Cost of Living increases (food and other goods) due to this tax. . . Maybe this will wake them up. . . Nah! That would require becoming educated on what is happening to them.

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In most states there is off-road diesel for agricultural use that does not include road tax. It is dyed red so it looks different from road diesel and you cannot hide it if you use it.
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Brown, Pelosi, Feinstein. Even as far away as here in Canada we hate them. Gotta be some kind of a$$ h**e to have a reputation like that.
You forgot Elizabeth Warren... heck, is easier to mention the good ones, there are not many.

Taxes will rise and wages will perhaps freeze or dwindle. We are seen it right now. Retail Sector is dying, Malls are getting emptied. Traffic (were I live) is getting lighter (people loosing their jobs); work hours are getting cut instead of lay offs. The Stock Market is artificially propped up. Retirement Funds insolvent (CALPERS, Dallas Police/Firemen, Teamster Union Local 707, etc...), the Bond Market is about to come down. Wait until the Feds calls for Negative Inteterest (pay the bank for keeping your money).



Mark my words.... the Savior of the US Economy is another war.



People will forget all the bad things and concentrate their effort and attention on the war. I am retired military and I can tell you this. Forget about all the militaristic movies; they all are bullshit for entertainment. The Russians and Chinese they are not small fries. They have enough advanced weaponry to give us a huge run for the money (pun intended). The US never, ever been "attacked" and destroyed like Europe in WW1/2. 911 was just a bitch slap on the face compared to US against pretty much all. Wait for an ICBM from Russia to land on a major city/military base. People in the US does not know or faced adversity. The nicest people will be desperate and will do the wierdest thing for small things. I have seen war torned countries; is no joke, people parts laying around rotting away. The psycological impact will be huge and the US is not ready for it. .

All this economical crap is coming down from a screwed up Fed Reserve/Banking System and decades long of wasteful/corrupted administrations.

Time will tell.

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Fuel taxes are high in California, but diesel has been getting a break on state taxes for a long time. The greater ncrease for diesel makes the rates more equitable. The new law will also tax electric cars, which currently do not pay road taxes. If there is an inequity, it seems to me it would be for diesel farm equipment which is not operated on the roads to any significant degree. I don't know if there is a way around that, but there ought to be.
...yep red diesel, off-road/construction/ag...

Can't wait to leave this communist state...and leave it to the huggers, criminals and the illegals to foot the tax bills...

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There seems to be a LOT of this going on in our glorious state

Unfortunately a LOT of us are in that boat. I'm pushing 50, and I've got one kid in her final year at Cal State Full., my middle is a senior in H.S., and my youngest is a sophomore, and then of course mine and my wife's jobs.
I was talking to a guy in Austin(TX.) last night, and he told me Californians are in max exodus there, San Antonio and Houston.
Never mind all the companies that Jerry and his comrades are chasing away. Toyota and its thousands of employees are leaving Torrance for Texas, and you know what California's response was? 'Don't let the door hit you in the ass'
As Jerry et al keeps spending(and stealing) more and more money, and keeps chasing away [long-time California] business(es), guess who keeps getting squeezed [more and more] to pick up the slack?
Well there is only one thing to do....

Come to Florida! It is like California, but BETTER! ;)

No state taxes, Just federal and local. My state tax for goods is 6% and locally is .5% so I only pay 6.5% on goods and I only pay Federal withholding on my paychecks. :)

Florida is awesome for keeping your own money. We also have Rick Scott, Republican Governor who is pro gun. We have "Stand Your Ground" and "Castle Doctrine" laws which also includes your vehicle.

You will also only see liberals in 2 different areas. one from most snowbirds that come down from NY and northern states, and in LARGE Florida cities like Miami,(Like San Diego) Tampa (No idea, lol) (, Jacksonville (Like Oakland), and Key West (Like San Fran).

I Live near West Palm Beach and it is amazingly gorgeous here. (Where Donald Trump's house is here)

I am sure you could find new schools and jobs ;)
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That sonofabitch just raised the tax on diesel fuel ANOTHER 20c/gallon, plus a 12c increase on fuel across the board.
So starting next year we're gonna be paying another fucking THIRTY-TWO-CENTS a gallon on diesel fuel.
Can someone explain HOW the fuck that piece of shit got elected AGAIN as governor?
He TOTALLY shit the bed his first time around back in the '70s, and IIRC some idiotic NoCal city elected him mayor, and he drove that place into the ground, again IIRC, getting himself fired in the process.
And now he's been elected governor for two-consecutive terms!
It's like the idiots in D.C. re-electing Marion Barry, even after he got popped for taking bribes-AND- smoking fricken crack cocaine on CAMERA.
There's never been a greater need for an IQ test to get your voter registration card.
I used to like living in California, but since its conversion to Kalifornistan I'm really starting to dislike it
Agreed! I just don't understand the majority of the voters here. It's like they are just plain crazy! Shoot these people in CA like to vote themselves new taxes and vote away their freedoms. Absolutely nuts! The only thing Ca will do with more money is find new ways to piss in down the drain. I am certain of this because I worked for the government my whole life and watched it happen. All the lazy asses I worked with didn't help either. Instead of firing them they just hire more....The government way. I guess with the new tax money they can hire more guys to stand around on the freeway watching the private sector do their work for them....:(
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Well there is only one thing to do....

Come to Florida! It is like California, but BETTER! ;)

No state taxes, Just federal and local. My state tax for goods is 6% and locally is .5% so I only pay 6.5% on goods and I only pay Federal withholding on my paychecks. :)

Florida is awesome for keeping your own money. We also have Rick Scott, Republican Governor who is pro gun. We have "Stand Your Ground" and "Castle Doctrine" laws which also includes your vehicle.

You will also only see liberals in 2 different areas. one from most snowbirds that come down from NY and northern states, and in LARGE Florida cities like Miami,(Like San Diego) Tampa (No idea, lol) (, Jacksonville (Like Oakland), and Key West (Like San Fran).

I Live near West Palm Beach and it is amazingly gorgeous here. (Where Donald Trump's house is here)

I am sure you could find new schools and jobs ;)

I was born and raised in Gainesville and that was a big area for the libs too, most likely a result of UF lol
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Well there is only one thing to do....

Come to Florida! It is like California, but BETTER! ;)

No state taxes, Just federal and local. My state tax for goods is 6% and locally is .5% so I only pay 6.5% on goods and I only pay Federal withholding on my paychecks. :)

Florida is awesome for keeping your own money. We also have Rick Scott, Republican Governor who is pro gun. We have "Stand Your Ground" and "Castle Doctrine" laws which also includes your vehicle.

You will also only see liberals in 2 different areas. one from most snowbirds that come down from NY and northern states, and in LARGE Florida cities like Miami,(Like San Diego) Tampa (No idea, lol) (, Jacksonville (Like Oakland), and Key West (Like San Fran).

I Live near West Palm Beach and it is amazingly gorgeous here. (Where Donald Trump's house is here)

I am sure you could find new schools and jobs ;)
It's amazing that there are states(Florida obviously being one of 'em) that manage to exist, no, THRIVE while not collecting income tax on their citizens, yet Kalifornistan goes 12 steps futher and taxes the shit outta EVERYTHING, yet we're always in the hole.
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