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Is there a forum for political topics?
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Some forums do and brings the worse of everybody. People get nasty when their believes are in question. Usually turns into gossips and skewed propagandistic garbage.

Let me prove it.

Test #1....

Global Warming is a huge and enourmous hoax. All based in taxation and extortion driven by fear.




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Test #1....

Global Warming is a huge and enourmous hoax. All based in taxation and extortion driven by fear.




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Umm, can't decide which reply to go with, erased several...

Here's one: You misspelled enourmous, it's enormous.

#two: "I respect everyone's opinion, no matter how wrong it may be."

#three: I don't feel any warmer than last year....

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Is there a forum for political topics?
I placed this thread here because its initial point was about the a$$HOLE raising the tax on diesel fuel
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I placed this thread here because its initial point was about the a$$HOLE raising the tax on diesel fuel
Only problem is it has devolved into general politics, if it keeps going off topic it may be better to move it.

So in light of this, please reference back to the diesel tax discussion... lets leave the politics to the news or at least the relevant section.

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Just my luck, I finally buy a diesel, and the taxes are going up!

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Is the new tax on all fuels or just specific to diesel fuel?

If it's just on diesel fuel, is it now the same as the one on gasoline or is it higher?

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Umm, can't decide which reply to go with, erased several...

Here's one: You misspelled enourmous, it's enormous.

#two: "I respect everyone's opinion, no matter how wrong it may be."

#three: I don't feel any warmer than last year....
I was wondering, how long do I have to wait for a bite... just got a nibble ( pointing out misspelled words )


Seen countless times in forums political debates and turning into grammar bashing/name calling. Never ends well.
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Is the new tax on all fuels or just specific to diesel fuel?

If it's just on diesel fuel, is it now the same as the one on gasoline or is it higher?
12 cents for gasoline 20 cents +5% for diesel

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Is the new tax on all fuels or just specific to diesel fuel?

If it's just on diesel fuel, is it now the same as the one on gasoline or is it higher?
It's only here in Kalifornistan.
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12 cents for gasoline 20 cents +5% for diesel
Diesel is actually going up 24 cents per gallon.

They are adding a 4 cent excise tax that is a separate line item than the 20 cents everyone is quoting and you can be sure the station owners arent gonna eat that for us. So we'll really see a 24 cent per gallon increase
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Let's not forget they are also raising the vehicle registration fees and average of $100.

Doubt much of this money will actually go to fixing roads. Schwarzenegger stole from the gas tax money that was supposed to go to road repairs to balance the state budget.

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...please reference back to the diesel tax discussion...
I can do that. I'd gladly (GLADLY) pay a couple bucks more/fill-up if it meant they'd fix our terrible roads. (47th worse in the nation according to some thing I read on the interweb) The republican-controlled state government here seems interested only in pushing their various retrograde agendas.
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When discussing Politics and Economics is very easy to deviate from the main topic. Everything is so interconnected that is hard to stay in course. The raise on Taxes could be driven by some promise to deliver free stuff or just plain and simple cost.

There are tons of rabbit holes and so easy to fall in any of them.

One of the things that I tell people is to learn how Currency is made. How some is created from nothing and drives so many things.

By the way, Money is not Currency; what people calls money, is not really money.

The difference with the Fed Gov and the States is, as far "money". The Fed Gov just print more currency to pay for promisses. The Sates, well, they do not have a printing press, so they raise taxes.
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I placed this thread here because its initial point was about the a$$HOLE raising the tax on diesel fuel
Ok. You aren't pleased about Jerry Brown raising the tax on diesel fuel. I support you.
And you made your views known, but this thread has degenerated into politics.

May I suggest:
1) finding a candidate for governor who is in favor of repealing the tax.
2) working through the state legislature to change the tax so light duty diesels are exempted.
3) non-violent protests.
4) utilizing the media to make your views known.


I highly doubt Jerry Brown or anyone in his office is monitoring this forum.

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When discussing Politics and Economics is very easy to deviate from the main topic. Everything is so interconnected that is hard to stay in course. The raise on Taxes could be driven by some promise to deliver free stuff or just plain and simple cost.

There are tons of rabbit holes and so easy to fall in any of them.

One of the things that I tell people is to learn how Currency is made. How some is created from nothing and drives so many things.

By the way, Money is not Currency; what people calls money, is not really money.

The difference with the Fed Gov and the States is, as far "money". The Fed Gov just print more currency to pay for promisses. The Sates, well, they do not have a printing press, so they raise taxes.
Not meaning to be rude but this post has absolutely nothing to do with the diesel tax.

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I highly doubt Jerry Brown or anyone in his office is monitoring this forum.
I'd have to agree with you. If these guys were driving diesels I'm sure the diesel tax wouldn't have increased more than gas tax.
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Ok. You aren't pleased about Jerry Brown raising the tax on diesel fuel. I support you.
And you made your views known, but this thread has degenerated into politics.

May I suggest:
1) finding a candidate for governor who is in favor of repealing the tax.
2) working through the state legislature to change the tax so light duty diesels are exempted.
3) non-violent protests.
4) utilizing the media to make your views known.


I highly doubt Jerry Brown or anyone in his office is monitoring this forum.
Actually, none of that would work in the current political climate in California with the exception of using the media. The way the system works in California is to propose a an Initiative for next ballot in November. You need to have a million signatures to get your initiative accepted by the state Secretary. You could probably get a million signatures in Orange County alone....

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I'd have to agree with you. If these guys were driving diesels I'm sure the diesel tax wouldn't have increased more than gas tax.
I doubt it would matter, they are probably driving state cars bought by us run with fuel bought by us. Diesel or not they wouldn't care. When you fill up at a government pump, there is no dollar readout. When they fill up at another place they just hand them their state CC.
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