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So glad I got the diesel.

Gas prices keep rising and diesel prices staying low. Add to that, 30% better mileage and it certainly makes for a lower cost of ownership. More pulling power and longer engine life helps too.
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Gas prices keep rising and diesel prices staying low. Add to that, 30% better mileage and it certainly makes for a lower cost of ownership. More pulling power and longer engine life helps too.
That converts to about $2.89 USD/gallon. Not sure what it costs in all parts of the US. Here in NC it's averaging about 20% less than what you are paying, but is still running approx 10% higher than the price of gasoline.

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If diesel averaged cheaper than super unleaded in California I would have waited for the diesel. With the new tax structure diesel will be even more expensive. It just doesn't pencil out even with my regular use of mid-grade fuel.

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"lower cost of ownership" isn't really accurate when factoring in the extra $4k price tag for the diesel unless you're owning the truck for more than 10-15 years when you'll break even with fuel savings. That's not to say that the diesels don't have their perks because they certainly do.
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At most pumps I see diesel to be about 10-15c cheaper than 87 Gas. With tax I figure they would be same price. I am talking about pumps like FLying J, Rotten Robbie etc., near Bay area and Sacramento
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At most pumps I see diesel to be about 10-15c cheaper than 87 Gas. With tax I figure they would be same price. I am talking about pumps like FLying J, Rotten Robbie etc., near Bay area and Sacramento
Yeah, it fluctuates occasionally but on average it's $0.20-$0.40 more expensive than 87 in the greater Sacramento area. Every time diesel drops I cringe. Haha Would be nice to be able to accelerate from a stop at a moderate pace without sounding like I'm drag racing (diesel vs. v6).

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If diesel averaged cheaper than super unleaded in California I would have waited for the diesel. With the new tax structure diesel will be even more expensive. It just doesn't pencil out even with my regular use of mid-grade fuel.
You need to stop using major brands. Hit up the Arco on Foresthill Rd or that that generic red and white station diagonal across the intersection.

I find diesel is always at least cheaper that 91oct. when you stay away from the big 4 name brands, Chevron, Shell, 76 and Valero

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You need to stop using major brands. Hit up the Arco on Foresthill Rd or that that generic red and white station diagonal across the intersection.

I find diesel is always at least cheaper that 91oct. when you stay away from the big 4 name brands, Chevron, Shell, 76 and Valero
I'm not a sucka. I use Arco 90% of the time on Hwy49. Haha Except when I had to buy gas in Buttonwillow area of i5 last week. At $3.69ga I was crying.
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I'm not a sucka. I use Arco 90% of the time on Hwy49. Haha Except when I had to buy gas in Buttonwillow area of i5 last week. At $3.69ga I was crying.
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I really wavered when buying my '17 Canyon, as the new V6 and 8 speed combo sound very nice. If the driving is mostly in town or taking short trips all the time, the gas engine would probably be a better choice due to the emissions system needing some drive time to clean itself, unless one goes the full delete route. That and the gas engine truck accelerates like a banshee.

Did not really get the diesel to save money, I got it as I see it as a unique power train, at least in the US, where only huge trucks have diesels. Glad I got the diesel though, really digging the relaxed torquey surge ahead like a locomotive diesel vibe and the fuel economy is good too. I find the diesel is the ultimate over the road cruiser. Once it hits top gear and highway speed, the trans' work is done and it just sips the fuel

As far as fuel goes, I go to my local Kroger grocery and gas store. Last fill up I had 70 cents in fuel points and filled that sucker up for $1.35 a gallon. My tank was good and empty too. The truck's long range per tank gives me time to accumulate more fuel points. Gotta eat ya know. They do a very high volume too, so I figure the diesel there gets turned over quickly.
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If diesel averaged cheaper than super unleaded in California I would have waited for the diesel. With the new tax structure diesel will be even more expensive. It just doesn't pencil out even with my regular use of mid-grade fuel.

You said "California" so I looked at a random area code (91105) in Los Angeles and it looks like diesel is significantly cheaper than even regular gasoline.

Diesel is:
.16 cheaper than regular
.26 cheaper than mid grade
.36 cheaper than premium

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I am curious what is a short commute. Is a 7 mile+ one way commute decent or count as short commute?
I am purchasing in June, and torn between diesel and gas. Since my last truck was a diesel, I like the torque and stuff, but my daily work commute will be 5-7 miles one way. Of course, weekends we will definitely do 40-50+ mile trips, and in many cases even 100 mile+trips
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You said "California" so I looked at a random area code (91105) in Los Angeles and it looks like diesel is significantly cheaper than even regular gasoline.

Diesel is:
.16 cheaper than regular
.26 cheaper than mid grade
.36 cheaper than premium
I was careful and also said average. :)

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I am curious what is a short commute. Is a 7 mile+ one way commute decent or count as short commute?
I am purchasing in June, and torn between diesel and gas. Since my last truck was a diesel, I like the torque and stuff, but my daily work commute will be 5-7 miles one way. Of course, weekends we will definitely do 40-50+ mile trips, and in many cases even 100 mile+trips
If you are planning on overlanding or other long weekend outdorsy trips just get the diesel. The extra range and low speed torque will be very nice. Anything but a plug-in hybrid/electric is going to suck on fuel economy on short commutes like that anyway.
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If you are planning on overlanding or other long weekend outdorsy trips just get the diesel. The extra range and low speed torque will be very nice. Anything but a plug-in hybrid/electric is going to suck on fuel economy on short commutes like that anyway.
Thanks! I am just worried if my short commutes will be damaging to the emission system. I can sure try an aggressive driving style to keep higher rpm on my commutes after the engine has sufficiently warmed up. I don't want to get into the problem of frequent regens. That is why I was wondering if 7 mile commute is too less and can harm the emission systems. Its like 12-15 minutes I guess
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I am purchasing in June, and torn between diesel and gas. Since my last truck was a diesel, I like the torque and stuff, but my daily work commute will be 5-7 miles one way. Of course, weekends we will definitely do 40-50+ mile trips, and in many cases even 100 mile+trips
That's a short trip but what kinda time does it take you? Time is more important than distance.

I had a 4 mile commute for years that would always take at least 15min due to lights.

You need a good 20min to complete a regen. If you monitor when the truck wants and is in regen and can let it finish that process you wont have issues.

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Thanks! I am just worried if my short commutes will be damaging to the emission system. I can sure try an aggressive driving style to keep higher rpm on my commutes after the engine has sufficiently warmed up. I don't want to get into the problem of frequent regens. That is why I was wondering if 7 mile commute is too less and can harm the emission systems. Its like 12-15 minutes I guess
I'm not a diesel expert so I can't answer that but the pros will chime in soon I'm sure. Just don't worry about the fuel economy on a short commute. It's going to suck no matter what. For the rest of your driving the diesel is a sound choice.

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That's a short trip but what kinda time does it take you? Time is more important than distance.

I had a 4 mile commute for years that would always take at least 15min due to lights.

You need a good 20min to complete a regen. If you monitor when the truck wants and is in regen and can let it finish that process you wont have issues.

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That clears it. Will sure try to attend a truck meet with local Cali fans :)
I guess I should keep driving if a regen is happening. I can do that

My commute is about 15 minutes as its a freeway run for 5 of those 7 miles. Good 85mph if I get a rabbit, and 72-73 if I am the rabbit
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I am curious what is a short commute. Is a 7 mile+ one way commute decent or count as short commute?
I am purchasing in June, and torn between diesel and gas. Since my last truck was a diesel, I like the torque and stuff, but my daily work commute will be 5-7 miles one way. Of course, weekends we will definitely do 40-50+ mile trips, and in many cases even 100 mile+trips

My current commute (in Mountain View) is 3mi...shortest I've ever had. So short in fact that if I don't have meetings in the morning I usually ride my bike to work.
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Thanks! I am just worried if my short commutes will be damaging to the emission system. I can sure try an aggressive driving style to keep higher rpm on my commutes after the engine has sufficiently warmed up. I don't want to get into the problem of frequent regens. That is why I was wondering if 7 mile commute is too less and can harm the emission systems. Its like 12-15 minutes I guess
My drive is about 7 miles and I never had a problem. I never even saw the "keep driving" message you get if you interrupt a regen enough, and I know I interrupted it a few times. It just picked back up and finished on the next drive with nary a notification or problem.

For the record, it's all in town and I got 23mpg on that drive stock, and get 26 now that I'm tuned.
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