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Originally Posted by stealth13777 View Post
I feel compelled to point out that your sentiment is shared by many, because the navistar (aka international) engines definitely had some issues. Ford has, however, only recently started building their own diesels with the introduction of the 6.7. They have had some issues just like the new Duramax but overall are viewed as a success and as a major improvement.

Personally I respect that GM offers a diesel in this segment, but view the specific motor offered as a compromise. It is good enough, much like the Ram ecodiesel. This Ford engine shows promise as a more modern design, and even though it isn't an inline motor, it could very much push the other manufacturers. Competition is good for all of us. If only we could get the EPA to more logically regulate diesels. Once the manufacturers get ahead of that side of things we all win

The engine in the twins is based on VM Motori's 2.8 that has been around since the 1990's. It is rare in the USA, but common in the rest of the world. In the USA, it was used in Jeep Liberty CRDs - 10K total for the NA market in 2005 & 2006. GM once owned half of VM Motori.

The eco'd 3l V6 is another VM Motori design, though much newer, a contemporary of the Ford-Peugeot "Lion" 3l diesel V6 still used by Land Rover, and likely to be used in the F150.

We have a ZR2 on order, and currently have a 2005 Liberty CRD, which we purchased new. It will be traded on the ZR2.

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