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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-05-2010, 07:17 PM Thread Starter
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found this on yahoo:
Chevy Colorado pickup. (About $18,000; unconfirmed; 30 percent.) This compact pickup never really found its niche, with less towing capacity than competitors and a cabin that wasn't quite as refined. When outfitted with a few options, it came close in price to its big brother, the Chevy Silverado—a much more rugged truck. But the Colorado is still a serviceable pickup that's great for light hauling. Its nearly identical cousin, the GMC Canyon, will also be retired around the same time as the Colorado, and has the same residual value. so are they saying 2010 last year. i think so and that means chevy and gm are giving up on small trucks. i think if they would have put more into the colorado it could have given the boast. but they would rather have toyota take over small trucks. what a shame.
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Aww that kinda sucks. That means Ford, Toyota and Nissan will be taking over the midsize truck biz

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Thats Crappy, i was looking to buy a brand new CC in the next couple years.

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This is what I have heard from people I know in the automotive industry, GM has no intention of building the Colorado/Canyon pickup past 2010. Is it any wonder GM went bankrupt with stragegic decisions like this? The one time in the last several decades when our economy would support a truck that is less expensive and more economical than your typical full size truck, and GM decides to stop making it. Pure genious if I ever saw it.

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This is what I have heard from people I know in the automotive industry, GM has no intention of building the Colorado/Canyon pickup past 2010. Is it any wonder GM went bankrupt with stragegic decisions like this? The one time in the last several decades when our economy would support a truck that is less expensive and more economical than your typical full size truck, and GM decides to stop making it. Pure genious if I ever saw it.

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The Colorado/Canyon are supposed to end 2012. As far as your statement about this being a good time for a midsize truck, none of them are doing well, and the Colorado/Canyon is selling nowhere near what the S-10/Sonoma did.

I'm not saying I dislike the truck, but the midsize market is shrinking, and the Colorado/Canyon isn't even holding the percentage of a shrinking market that the previous entry had.

Replacement for the Colorado/Canyon is supposed to come from GM Brazil.


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This is what I have heard from people I know in the automotive industry, GM has no intention of building the Colorado/Canyon pickup past 2010. Is it any wonder GM went bankrupt with stragegic decisions like this? The one time in the last several decades when our economy would support a truck that is less expensive and more economical than your typical full size truck, and GM decides to stop making it. Pure genious if I ever saw it.

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The Colorado/Canyon are supposed to end 2012. As far as your statement about this being a good time for a midsize truck, none of them are doing well, and the Colorado/Canyon is selling nowhere near what the S-10/Sonoma did.

I'm not saying I dislike the truck, but the midsize market is shrinking, and the Colorado/Canyon isn't even holding the percentage of a shrinking market that the previous entry had.

Replacement for the Colorado/Canyon is supposed to come from GM Brazil.
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i don't really agree with mid-size not doing well . i think toyota has done well for small trucks. think about it cash for clunkers. did not the goverment want smaller and better. not that i will make my choice on goverments needs. i think gm had something and just gave up on it .
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I really think the price of new cars/trucks have exploded in the past 10yrs, and is contributing to them not selling as well as the S10/Sonoma. And not just these trucks but alot of vehicles. In the late 90's early 2000's an fully loaded S10 could be had for around 20k, now a fully loaded colorado is 28k-32k depending on engine. I know my paychecks haven't gotten that much bigger. These are great trucks GM just dropped the ball with them and there really isn't anyone to blame but them.

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Could be related to the H3 sell off.
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I really think the price of new cars/trucks have exploded in the past 10yrs, and is contributing to them not selling as well as the S10/Sonoma. And not just these trucks but alot of vehicles. In the late 90's early 2000's an fully loaded S10 could be had for around 20k, now a fully loaded colorado is 28k-32k depending on engine. I know my paychecks haven't gotten that much bigger.
My '95 S-10 and my '04 Colorado stickered for within ~1500 of each other and were similarly optioned.

I don't know what the crew cab S-10/Sonoma was priced at when that came out, but ~1500 in 9 years doesn't seem that bad to me, especially considering the Colorado has more options that weren't available on the S-10.

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i don't really agree with mid-size not doing well . i think toyota has done well for small trucks.
And you're basing this on what? GM sold ~40K 355s in 2009, Toyota ~110K Tacomas, Ford ~55k Rangers, and I can't find numbers for the Dakota for 09 but there were only about 26K sales in 08.

But looking at the sales numbers for the four above trucks, the market has been declining since '05 or earlier...


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Tacoma sales basically equal the sales of the 355s, the Ranger, and the Dakota added together. And Tacoma sales are generally #4, right behind the fullsize trucks from GM, Ford, and Dodge.
Considering the economy as of late, the Tacoma is doing well.

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Tacoma sales basically equal the sales of the 355s, the Ranger, and the Dakota added together. And Tacoma sales are generally #4, right behind the fullsize trucks from GM, Ford, and Dodge.
Considering the economy as of late, the Tacoma is doing well.
But still significantly down from where it was in 05, they sold 110K last year, and 178K in 05, if I remember the numbers right. Given the significant drop in everyone's sales over the last 4 years, its safe to say the midsize market is definitely shrinking.


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I think alot of is the way demand is heading. Look at a midsize truck from today compared to a full size from 15 years ago. They are about the same size. When it comes down to it, you can get a full size truck today for not much more and they get pretty good gas mileage. Also, besides Toyota, a midsize truck has never made the "image" of a manufacturer. When you say Ford truck, your automatic response isn't Ranger, it's F-150. I've had 4 Rangers, an S-10, and now my Canyon, but when it comes down to it, they are still very small, don't get amazing gas mileage, and are fairly incapable off-road stock. I stress stock in the last sentence, because anything is capable off road with enough mods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twocy...eature=related
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I think alot of is the way demand is heading. Look at a midsize truck from today compared to a full size from 15 years ago. They are about the same size. When it comes down to it, you can get a full size truck today for not much more and they get pretty good gas mileage. Also, besides Toyota, a midsize truck has never made the "image" of a manufacturer. When you say Ford truck, your automatic response isn't Ranger, it's F-150. I've had 4 Rangers, an S-10, and now my Canyon, but when it comes down to it, they are still very small, don't get amazing gas mileage, and are fairly incapable off-road stock. I stress stock in the last sentence, because anything is capable off road with enough mods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twocy...eature=related
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Using a-c most of the time (it's FL) & a mix of city/hiway driving, if I keep it below 70 mph I get about 20 mpg, but have gone down to 17.5 when pushing it. Compared to the SIerra 1500 v6 8' bed I traded-in, which got 12-13 mpg, I am very happy! No, it doesn't have the size bed of the SIerra full-size, but in the life of the truck (Sierra) I used the full carrying capacity only a handful of times so if I have to make a 'second trip' once a year or so, so what? I also have a 10' flatbed utility trailer if I have something to haul.

I was adapting a 1/4" platform made of diamond-plate aluminum to extend past the tailgate & using the 2" receiver hitch as a support for it to put-on for increased load-carrying capacity, but a )(*&^^%$$&^ thief stole the receiver hitch bracket/upright & the alum. platform when I was almost done with the fabrication.

My truck with Cash for Clunkers & assorted discounts was a great deal, and as a former resident of MI I was glad to buy American.
I get more use out of the extra passenger capacity for my Canyon than I did out of the Sierra for its cargo capacity. The Canyon is so much more fun to drive than a full-size p-u. I would have liked to get the ZQ8 but I had a difficult-enough time finding this I-5 CC with the tow pkg. when I bought it.

As far as promoting the Colorado/Canyon, when was the last time you saw either a print ad or broadcast ad for the 355? I may have seen one of each since I bought mine, and the broadcast was not a 355-only. If you do not support the brand with advertising, you are going to attract fewer customers. I looked at the Tacoma & the Frontier before I bought the Canyon, and while they were all good vehicles, I do not regret my purchase. I keep my vehicles for many years, so this will go well-past 100K before I start to think about a replacement.
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