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Im going to get 35x12.5 R18 Nitto Mud Grapplers with 18x9 with bolt pattern 6x5.5 Wheels. I'm going to get a 4" Skyjacker Lift with a 3" BL. Will I be able to fit my 35's without rubbing, slight trimming maybe? Or do I need to go with the CST to be able to clear? And is my tire/wheel combination correct? Making sure so that I don't do something wrong :).

(This is for my new Truck)

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Is this too hard to answer? lol

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i have the 4in skyjacker and 3in body lift i run 35" toyos with 16" rims the only place i rub is during tight turning and it rubs on the cab mount in the rear of the wheelwell, its a simple fix i'd say about an hour of grinding i've just been to lazy, hope that helps

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Yea it does, and you dont rub on anything when you go over bumps or up hills at first? And what if I had the money for the CST 5" 4wd kit? Should I just go ahead and grab that so I dont have to worry about rubbing really? And having 8" on my colly would be freakin sweet IMO :mrgreen: . The thing is, I don't need a brushgaurd yet, but I will have money left over after the tires/wheels and lifts to get tinted windows and a system, I am leaning towards the CST though.

Has anyone gotten it through a store yet? I know its $1,899.00 but how much is it shipped? And how much do retailers/4-wheel-shops sell them for?

I can also get the skyjacker lift with skid plate and 4 shocks for $1,500.

Dilemma Dilemma :clueless .

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i have the 4in skyjacker and 3in body lift i run 35" toyos with 16" rims the only place i rub is during tight turning and it rubs on the cab mount in the rear of the wheelwell, its a simple fix i'd say about an hour of grinding i've just been to lazy, hope that helps


How wide are your wheels? What about your backspacing? Did you decrease your backspacing to kick the wheels out a little more? It is critical that Ryan get the right wheels. Backspacing will also depend on the width of your wheel. I apparently relied too much on the well know shop I bought my parts from and did not triple check their numbers. Backspacing did not push the tires out far enough and ended up cutting them down. They put me in new tires but would not correct the wheels so I ended up stuck. Waiting for the tires to wear before I upsize to the 35s. For the short period I had them on the truck, I recall a slight rub on the middle of the wheel well and MAJOR rubbing on the body mount but I am sure that was because the wheel was tucked too far in the wheel well.

Grinding? WTF? Are the body mounts not hollow? I plan on doing this but expected that I would have to weld plates over the expected holes.

Ryan, check the CTS very closely. I looked into those and recall needing to buy many extras that were either included or much more affordable with Skyjacker.

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* Tread Depth = 21/32
* Overall Diameter = 35.0 inches
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* Backspace = 5in.
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* Offset = 0mm

What lift should I go for then to work with backspace, etc. I will put on spacers if I have to also.

I was also thinking about CST and BL though for more clearance on the tires so that I dont have to worry about rubbing really.
If this will work easy with the Skyjacker and BL then I will def. do that to save money.

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Ryanhizzle wrote:
Yea it does, and you dont rub on anything when you go over bumps or up hills at first? And what if I had the money for the CST 5" 4wd kit? Should I just go ahead and grab that so I dont have to worry about rubbing really? And having 8" on my colly would be freakin sweet IMO :mrgreen: . The thing is, I don't need a brushgaurd yet, but I will have money left over after the tires/wheels and lifts to get tinted windows and a system, I am leaning towards the CST though.

Has anyone gotten it through a store yet? I know its $1,899.00 but how much is it shipped? And how much do retailers/4-wheel-shops sell them for?

I can also get the skyjacker lift with skid plate and 4 shocks for $1,500.

Dilemma Dilemma :clueless .


No rubbing on bumps or hills just sharp turns like parking and such, i don't know much about CST i'm sure its a good setup all i can say is that i have 40k on my 06 and no problems, 8" would be sweet, it all depends on what your using it for, i do alot of off-roading so my setup works for what i do, good luck i can't wait to see pics

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jackedupcanyon wrote:
Sargent_Rado wrote:
i have the 4in skyjacker and 3in body lift i run 35" toyos with 16" rims the only place i rub is during tight turning and it rubs on the cab mount in the rear of the wheelwell, its a simple fix i'd say about an hour of grinding i've just been to lazy, hope that helps


How wide are your wheels? What about your backspacing? Did you decrease your backspacing to kick the wheels out a little more? It is critical that Ryan get the right wheels. Backspacing will also depend on the width of your wheel. I apparently relied too much on the well know shop I bought my parts from and did not triple check their numbers. Backspacing did not push the tires out far enough and ended up cutting them down. They put me in new tires but would not correct the wheels so I ended up stuck. Waiting for the tires to wear before I upsize to the 35s. For the short period I had them on the truck, I recall a slight rub on the middle of the wheel well and MAJOR rubbing on the body mount but I am sure that was because the wheel was tucked too far in the wheel well.

Grinding? WTF? Are the body mounts not hollow? I plan on doing this but expected that I would have to weld plates over the expected holes.

Ryan, check the CTS very closely. I looked into those and recall needing to buy many extras that were either included or much more affordable with Skyjacker.


i didn't change the backspacing, my tires are 315/75/16s, as for the grinding i wasn't going to take that much off cause i don't think i have to to solve the problem, if it did come down to welding plates over the wholes of course i'd do that plus painting for looks

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Ryanhizzle wrote:
Tire
* 35X12.50R18 ,Mud Grappler
* Load Range = 3
* Max Load = 3420
* Tread Depth = 21/32
* Overall Diameter = 35.0 inches
* Black SideWall
Wheel
* 18x9, 6 on 5.5 Bolt Pattern
* Backspace = 5in.
* Max Load = 2200lbs
* Finish = Gloss Black w/ Accents
* Hub Centric = No
* Offset = 0mm

What lift should I go for then to work with backspace, etc. I will put on spacers if I have to also.

I was also thinking about CST and BL though for more clearance on the tires so that I dont have to worry about rubbing really.
If this will work easy with the Skyjacker and BL then I will def. do that to save money.


Have no knowledge of the CST lift. But from my experience cutting down a set of tires with the 4" skyjacker lift, I personally needed 4" back spacing to fit most 35x12.5s and 3.75" to fit all 35x12.5s. Trucks will differ slightly between the same year and possibly more between years but it sounds like you would need 1" - 1.25" spacers. You may need to grind the studs down if you go with the 1" spacers and you wheels do not have a recess in them to except the stud extending out past the spacer.

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Yea, I figured you needed spacers. Usually thats the case when you go wider and bigger tires than what people normally do IMO. Yea, I think im going to go with the Skyjacker and BL lifts, I wanted to see if there was any problems and I guess theres not. To me the extra $500 for 1" extra of lift isnt worth it, I can use it for other good causes in my truck :). Thanks guys!!

I'll repost on here with pics when I get all the things on(idk how long that will be :clueless )! Thanks for your inputs.

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So I just found out the cost of getting my lifts done and tires on, etc. $700 flat labor with me bringing in the stuff, pretty sweet, it was usually $500-600 for suspensions and $500 for body lifts. Now all I gotta do is sell my truck and then buy this other one, woot woot. Pics will come as soon as I get it. Thanks for the opinions. BTW I'm going with 35x12.50x18 nitto grapplers with 18x9 wheels(Procomps or motos), Backspacing 4.75"-5"(depending on rim) and I will be adding spacers to help with the backspacing.

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With that much backspacing from the rims already you shouldn't need a spacer at all to give you enough clearance because there should be enough already.

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i have the 4in skyjacker and 3in body lift i run 35" toyos with 16" rims the only place i rub is during tight turning and it rubs on the cab mount in the rear of the wheelwell, its a simple fix i'd say about an hour of grinding i've just been to lazy, hope that helps



what kinda BS are you running on your setup. i got 35s on mine but i forgot what BS i got and im plannin on getting new rims. i think i got 4.25

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With that much backspacing from the rims already you shouldn't need a spacer at all to give you enough clearance because there should be enough already.

M_O_Z, you're thinking upside-down man. More backspacing will move the wheel and tire further inboard and cause rubbing on the upper ball joint, body mounts, and maybe other places as well. What he needs is less backspacing to move the wheel and tire further outboard. A spacer will accomplish this. Both Rancho and Skyjacker call for 4.5" BS on a 285 wide tire. He's talking about a 315 wide. He'll definitely need less BS to make it work. I'm running a 305 with 3.625" BS and only have about 1/2" between the sidewall and the upper ball joint. The best answer is to get the right wheel to begin with. a 3.75" BS would probably work well, but I don't know what's available in an 18".

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Skyjacker literature calls for 4.75" backspacing maximum:

http://www.skyjacker.com/image/catalog/ ... 0chart.pdf

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jackedupcanyon wrote:
Skyjacker literature calls for 4.75" backspacing maximum:

http://www.skyjacker.com/image/catalog/ ... 0chart.pdf

You're right. My bad. :oops: That's what I get for relying on my failing memory. :lol: The point is the same though. :wink:

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sooo what does this mean for the 315 tire? Skyjacker doesn't recomend that size of tire does the mackspacing stay the same? I know that a bigger BS would be no good but how aboutt a smaller one? I was thinking 3.5" BS. I'm also trying to fit 35x12.5, plus i'm in Guam. Ordering stuff is too exspensive to guess on....

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315/75/16=35/12.50

Not sure what your asking.

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sooo what does this mean for the 315 tire? Skyjacker doesn't recomend that size of tire does the mackspacing stay the same? I know that a bigger BS would be no good but how aboutt a smaller one? I was thinking 3.5" BS. I'm also trying to fit 35x12.5, plus i'm in Guam. Ordering stuff is too exspensive to guess on....

Yes, since you're wanting to mount a wider tire than SJ specs, you'll need to adjust the BS smaller to compensate for the added tire width. Otherwise, you'll run into troubles with the inner sidewall rubbing on the upper ball joint. The potential problem here is: as the outer edge of the tire moves farther outboard (a result of less backspacing and compounded by the wider tire itself), you run into problems with interference at the lower valance on the front bumper, and with the lower edge of the rear of the front wheel well. Obviously this is when the steering is turned and/or the suspension is flexed. The front body mount has been a point of interference with the 35s also, I believe. A few have cut off the offending portion for clearance and welded in a plate to restore structural integrity.

I'm running 3.625" BS with my 305s so 3.5" BS will most likely work for you with a 35x12.50 if you have the 4" SJ lift and a 3" BL and are willing to crank the TBs a little. Can't be absolutely sure what the extra diameter will do to you though. Just depends on how close to a true 35" dia. the tire is, how wide your wheel is, etc.

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What size rim you looking at? Skyjacker calls for a 17" wheel.

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u can run 15s on it if u want. a few people on here are and so am i ina week.

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I was looking at 15" rims but not limiting myself to them. I'll probably go with 15" or 16" x 8" rims with a 3.5" backspacing. I know the tires will mount and not rub the ball joints. Dents and Ding's truck is an '04 and soo would sit lower (from stock) than mine, hopefully the higher stance will clear me of my fender.

Worst case scenario, I end up cutting off some body mount, I don't really want to but i want to run 35's more. Is there a 34" tire equivilent?

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You can save quite a bit of money on a set of tires by staying with the 15" hole.

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sounds good to me i staying with 15s :D

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